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Re: Quite a lot of time spent in ssh_get_random

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 06:37:05PM +0100, Aris Adamantiadis wrote:
> Hi Rich,
> I'm a bit surprised that it's taking so much resource. It's probably
> because it's rehashing the whole entropy pool every time we read it.
> packet_send uses random input in the padding field. I'm not sure
> that simply using zeroes would be fine, but we certainly don't need
> very high quality random numbers.
> Is your program running in FIPS mode? FIPS adds a few requirements
> on the prng, like using a certified (slow) DRBG.

Hmm, I don't *think* so, although I'm not certain I would know
how to tell this.

We don't call any *fips* APIs in the plugin itself.

Reading the OpenSSL documentation, it seems as if FIPS mode would be
enabled by putting fips=1 on the kernel command line, and this is NOT
present in my /proc/cmdline.

dracut-fips is not installed, which is apparently one of the steps
required to enable FIPS support in Fedora.  And:

$ sysctl crypto.fips_enabled
crypto.fips_enabled = 0

So, probably not?!


> Aris
> Le 19/02/21 à 17:42, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit :
> >I've been profiling our SSH plugin:
> >https://gitlab.com/nbdkit/nbdkit/-/tree/master/plugins/ssh
> >http://oirase.annexia.org/tmp/ssh_get_random.svg
> >
> >One observation is it seems to spend a lot of time in ssh_get_random;
> >something like a third of the time in sftp_packet_write is spent
> >there.  Is there anything we should know to make this faster?  I
> >believe we are using the openssl (libcrypto) backend.
> >
> >The hardware is AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor with these flags:
> >
> >flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt tce topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb bpext perfctr_llc mwaitx cpb cat_l3 cdp_l3 hw_pstate sme ssbd mba sev ibpb stibp vmmcall sev_es fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 cqm rdt_a rdseed adx smap clflushopt clwb sha_ni xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves cqm_llc cqm_occup_llc cqm_mbm_total cqm_mbm_local clzero irperf xsaveerptr rdpru wbnoinvd arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold avic v_vmsave_vmload vgif umip rdpid overflow_recov succor smca
> >
> >Rich.
> >

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Re: Quite a lot of time spent in ssh_get_randomAndreas Schneider <asn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Quite a lot of time spent in ssh_get_random"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx>
Re: Quite a lot of time spent in ssh_get_randomAris Adamantiadis <aris@xxxxxxxxxx>
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